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the millennials are turning on their faithful leader. >> will you sign up for obama care? >> i don't know. >> i'm not planning on it. >> not something i'm doing at this time. >> fast food workers protest the federal minimum wage. how much do you want to pay for a cheeseburger? >> i look at obama as a perfect american. i felt this tingle up my leg. >> the president obama lovefest. "hannity" starts here, right now. we have a busy show planned. our hearts are with nelson mandela who died at 95. he was jailed for nearly three decades fighting against apartheid. we'll follow the story at the fox news channel. we are learning more and more about what a disaster obama care is. millions are learning they cannot keep the doctors they have on their insurance plan. they were promised they could but they can't. the website is such a mess people can't sign up. it is plagued with huge security risks and we are left with no choice. this law has to be repealed, replaced and like they did when they were selling the disastrous low to the american people, democrat democrats are lying again to save the law. they s
effort to re-sell obama care to you, the american public. >> more problems may pop up as they always do when you launch something new. >> the president's health care plan continues to wreak havoc on the american families snow tief >> the administration continues to hide the problems. >> and another problem, stocking up on liquor, guess what? using your money on your dime. plus, the former atf agent who was silenced by the administration is here to expose the truth behind the "fast & furious" scandal. hannity starts right now. and welcome to "hannity." the obama administration and its left wing lackeys are trying to re-launch the disastrous program on the health care law. but unfortunately, the damage is done. we're now learning more about the security risks associated with this website. now listen to what david kennedy, the so-called white hat hacker, talk about the development. >> when they created this website they kind of threw a lot of things together, mixed and matched a bunch of parts putting it on the site to be used by the general public. so when you have that type of website it
. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. >>> tonight's lead, obama care plus success equals one massive right wing freakout. president obama's health care law is working. and many on the right just can't handle it. here's what i'm talking about. >> well, nelson mandela stood up against a great injustice and was willing to pay a huge price for that. that's the reason he's mourned today because of that struggle he performed. but you're right. what he was advocating for was not necessarily the right answer, but he was fighting against some great injustice. and i would make the argument that, you know, we have a great injustice going on in this country with an ever-increasing size of government that is taking over and controlling people's lives. and obama care is front and center in that. >> yes. he just compared fighting the health care law to fighting apartheid. rick santorum doesn't have to like the health care law, but he's a former u.s. senator. does he really think it compares to government-backed racial segregation. but this is the ugliest we've seen f
or scaling back obama care. only 37% said it should be kept the way it is or expanded. that's not only the troubling news we have to share on a conference call with reporters today a cms spokesman said on health care.gov one of every ten transactions is experiencing errors. also according to politico things would be worse. that's worse for the administration. a new report reads enrollment surge or no the next challenge is a big one. how will the white house make sure all the people with cancelled policies get new coverage by january 1. even with the speedier newly functioning website they have a vast distance to travel before the estimated 4 to 5 million people with cancelled policies get new health care coverage. it is not out of the question that the obama administration could pace the worst case scenario on january 1 -- the number of uninsured american goes up. pathetic. we want you to join the conversation. log onto our facebook page. we hope you will share thoughts on the program. with reaction here in studio, author, attorney david limbaugh and forbes senior political contributor
for a month-long pr offensive on obama care. >> my main message today is we're not going back and we're just getting started with the exchanges. just getting started with the marketplaces. so we're not going to walk away from it. if i've got to fight another three years to make sure this law works, then that's what i'll do. >> in a speech next hour, the president will connect the push for health care to the battle over income and equality and stop by a white house youth summit later this afternoon because getting young people to sign up is, of course, crucial for obama care's success. let me bring in our company. richard wolf is the vice president and executive editor of msnbc.com. hen rick hertzburg, senior editor of "the new yorker." is this marketing campaign, pr push, whatever you want to call it, exactly what obama care needs or has this already been defined largely by the republicans and by the problems with the website? >> it's actually what health care reform has always needed, and the president has never really got his arms around. so if you look at the polling, it's easily distorte
the obama care website, it turns out all your fears are real. one state giving away your details without your permission to marketers, coming up. >>> how the heck does this happen? >> i called my girlfriend and she thought i was crazy. i said, debby, i'm locked on a plane. >> he fell asleep and woke up on an empty airplane. they locked it up, turned off the lights. the story you have to be awake to believe. wake up. "fox & friends" starts right now. >>> oh, good morning. it may be early, but no less cheerful here at "fox & friends." 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. >> welcome. >> where is the oddest place you've fallen asleep. >> at the dentist. >> right here on this couch. >> yes. yes. >> the dentist? >> while you're waiting. no. no. you're very sleep deprived. >> must have been a two-hour wait. >> one of the oddest places, i'm trying to think about that. >> where is the oddest place you've ever fallen asleep. >> we have news headlines to get to on your sunday morning. a 16-year-old boy on his way to celebrate christmas with his family dies on board the flight. the pilots tried to make an e
phase. he needs her to provide cover on issues such as the obama care mess, even if that means occasional potshots from her husband, who insisted this week he is clueless about her intentions. >> is she running or do you know if she's running? >> no clue. i don't. she believes and i believe that the four-year cam papaign mania a big mistake. >> republican strategists are saying that hillary clinton is the life raft on obama's sinking shift. obama's troops would be a lot less likely to abandon ship if she wasn't around. it's not easy to succeed a president of your own party, as long-time clintoned adviser tel me. in a way hillary clinton and barack obama are still circling each other. the president needs to keep her on the political reservation. she needs to hold on to his base, while running as a different kind of democrat. brett? >> thanks. >>> still ahead, the trust busting ftc goes after your piano teacher? we'll explain. first, can house and senate budget leaders find common ground before another possible government shutdown. we'll be right back. wee aig. and we're here. to
that the obama care website for small businesses would not be ready for december first. kept it all a secret. the bombshell revelation includes this e-mail. i've escalated your concerns regarding the shop employee application not being completed until 10/13/15. if this is late we have to announce we are late with a deliverrable which means the secretary will have to announce. here is the reaction from the house energy and commerce chair. we see more and more evidence that the administration and the signature health care law. the announcement only came last week. what do you make of the bombshell revelations? >> these e-mails show pattern that has been happening throughout the obama care scandal at this point. this goes back to may that there were problems and delays tests thinking missed and major contracts that hadn't been let out and more that there wasn't anyone really in charge. so this administration the white house was so determined to come out with this obama care on october 1st regardless of these problems. >> as each new revelation comes out. let me ask you this, does it make it a b
the president for delaying some of the implementation of obama care. and then they attack him for pushing it out too early, the rollout of the exchange on october 1. wait a minute. is he guilty on both directions, bad for bringing something on time and bringing something later? these guys should check with each other about their indictments because they're 180 from each other. >> well, it makes them look sill eye. they kind of remind me right now of you know how we go to the conventions we have the protesters caged. and you let them vent and get that out of their system. >> a gravelly, former parking lot. >> i agree the negative is getting them nowhere because i wrote a column just about that. and president obama is wise to that. he realizes they've said no all along. i'm going to be mr. positive, mr. hope and change. but he's distracting from the comes that they have raised, the misleading of the american people about keeping what you want, all those things are still out there. >> do you think it's smart to call him a liar? >> i don't use that word. >> i avoid that word. i'm sure somebody will
efforts because the government is us. >> he has promoted the obama care act on obama care. >> i know people call this law obama care. >> obama care. >> and that's okay, because i do care. >> back on the hill, republicans are not backing down. >> chairman darrell issa. >> no one is suggesting for a moment that we take government out of health care. >> right. >> that one kicked me in the belly. they have no plan. >> we've been putting deals on the table. >> but nothing's passed. >> the other issue obviously is the economy. >> the economy remains the single biggest concern. >> washington consistently failed to act. >> these asperities have become too big to ignore. >> making an action across the board. >> raising minimum wage, assistance to the long-term unemployed. something of a warning call to the american dream. >> it is not simply a moral claim. >> it's rooted in the personal. >> so we can make a difference on this. >> there are 19 shopping days to find health insurance on the government exchange. 29,000 people reportedly completed the application and selected a health plan on the
'll dig into what's going on and how important millennials are to both obama care and the obama presidency. >>> good morning. i'm chris jansing, and this morning we're looking at what the president calls the defining challenge of our time, income and equality. he's got a lot of statistics to back him up, but consider just this one. between 1978 and 2011 worker compensation has gone up by 5.7%, on average, for most of us, for a ceo, they've gotten a 725% raise. fast food workers say they are living examples of the effect of income and equality. today thousands of them are walking off the job in more than a hundred cities off the country demanding to be paid $15 an hour. >> i actually work two jobs. i work mcdonald's and wendy's and it's still not enough. the cost of living still seems to be rising over my head and still making difficult, daily sacrifices and i work two job, minimum wage is just not enough. >> president obama gave those protesters a boost yesterday. >> we know that there are airport workers and fast food workers and nurse assistants and retail sales people who work their tai
obama care media blitz does continue and today president obama will focus his message on the laws and the benefits for people with pre-existing medical conditions. this as the white house announces some 56,000 people and their successful enrollment in coverage during exchanges. that's more than double the enrollees for the entire month of october and all of this as the administration ramps up, too, december 23rd and the enrollment deadline for january 1st coverage, jim mcdermott, senior member of the house, ways and means committee. >> as we look back at the calendar, it was two weeks ago when they assembled this team, the senate and house strike teams and what was their task versus the daily barrage of messages that we'll see on tap from the white house. can you explain the difference? >> it looks to me like it's all one plan because you really have to keep pushing and letting people know and try and build momentum in the public the real problem here is public education, if you have never had health insurance before, you don't know how it works and you've never applied for it and
's giving a speech touting the relaunch of obama care 2.0. >>> a major decision on the detroit bankruptcy case. the judge will take the bench in just minutes. >>> and protesters tackling two major issues, immigration and the minimum wage. how pressure from the people could finally change washington. >>> good morning, i'm chris jansing. there's a major new push to focus positive attention on obama care, and it starts today. the kickoff is at the white house this afternoon. we'll hear from the president today, but the plan is to have a democrat or someone from the administration do something every single day until the december 23rd deadline. and just announced, this thursday the president will sit down with chris matthews at american university. the interview will air right here on msnbc's "hardball" at 7:00 p.m. eastern. again, that's thursday, december 5th. >>> and it appears to be the right time for a new pr campaign, considering that the website is doing better. a senior administration official says 750,000 people visited the site yesterday, and enrollment numbers obtained by nbc news s
has to be on protecting the american people from obama care. we have passed bill after bill trying to protect the american people from this disaster. so protecting the american people from obama care has been another priority. >> got that? he is protecting us. excellent. our panel is also the opinion writer. also a msnbc contributor. i didn't get to name your fabulous newspaper. we are looking forward to chris matthews interview and sitting down with the president and american university in front of a very deliberate audience which is young people. this is where the battle is being joined. the president is trying to convince younger americans that it's for you and republicans making what argument to young people some. >> the argument they are making with the creepy uncle sam showed they still do it. it's by the obama administration to make you get something you don't need and you probably don't want. it's a crazy thing. the president is going after young people in particular. one because you need them in the pool. you need the premiums and helping people in the pools to help pay fo
of americans who think they have health insurance under obama care may discover on january 1st that they do not. after days of refusing to release the stats on the problems plaguing healthcare.gov, the administration has now announced under pressure from the press that the enrollment out of 1 out of every 4 people in the months of october and november were botched. at li 1 out of every 4. now, since then, they say at least 1 out of every 10 federal applications has had problems since the fix, and they think the number is higher in the states, the state exchanges. a reporter pressed the agency in charge of these exchanges, the federal exchange, for a solution to this mess. people don't know. they think they've got the coverage. they don't have the coverage. the insurer has some botched form. it doesn't even have names so it can't call the person to tell them it didn't work for you. and here was the answer. >> but you're not saying that everyone should call? you're not suggesting that, urging them strongly despite the fact you're talking about a potential 1 in 10 error rate going forward. >> i wo
honoring his word on obama care? >> first of all, i think it's important to point out he actually has tried to go beyond what he promised now. and in many places, he will be able to do that. >> you don't take credit for that? >> no. i waited for him to say that he felt badly about it. but the truth is the law that he signed did grandfather in the policies that were in existence when he signed the law. >> so we're hearing from a different tone of bill clinton there, senator. we've got the newfound confidence that we're watching from the president, his white house, this new strike team. there are some of leaders right there, these democratic lawmakers. do you think there's enough time for the president to rewrite the narrative on obama care? >> absolutely. absolutely, thomas. the main point that has to be made is that the current system before the aca is absolutely dysfunctional. 48 million people, no health insurance. we spent twice as much per capita on health care as the people of any other nation. if we spent what other nations spent on health care, we'd save $900 billion a year. 45,000 p
the benefits of obama care. the president heads off this fresh offensive with a speech planned for 2:30 p.m. eastern surrounded by americans who have been helped by the health care law. just announced this morning, this thursday, msnbc "hardball" host chris matthews will have a sitdown with president obama joined by students from american universities. the so-called young invincibles that the white house needs to reach. each and every day between now and december the 23rd, the administration and congressional democrats will hold an event touting a different positive aspect of the health care law, just like those advent calendars so many of us are using this time of year. seems familiar, right? the ones where every day of the month you pop open another door and reveal something special inside? three years after he signed the affordable care act into law, two months after the botched rollout of the health care website, the administration hopes a three-week campaign will remind all americans why they're doing this in the first place. >> how hard of a slog is it going to be for the white hous
system. >> when you look at obama care, you see a government centered health care delivery system. that's not what the american people want. the american people want to be able to pick their own type of health insurance and pick their own doctor and pick their own hospital. >> let me get your response to this. obviously some people interpret the government centered for socialism, which has been some of the criticism. what is your response to the patient is not driving their health care here? >> well, if patients are not driving this, i would like to know why it is we are concerned about people being able to navigate the website and go through plan by plan by plan to select the plans they want. and that's what this is all about. that's not the government telling them this is your plan. we're laying out for the american people in some instances 25 and 30. i've gone through this myself to pick out the plan i want from among the various levels that are available. that is the patient -- or potential patient taking the kind of plan he or she wants to have. what we also know is that when peopl
we got. >> i want to do obama care, alex, why don't you want to do it? >> do it. here, you got good news on obama care. we got 70 years before the next story comes. >> it's next. the rebought of obama care comes as the president will talk about the benefit of this health care law. yesterday, president obama defended the affordable care act and suggested if republicans have better ideas they should bring them to the stable. >> the bottom line is this law is working and will get started with the exchanges, with the marketplaces, so we're not going to walk away from it. if i've got to fight another three years to make sure this law works, then that's what i will do. i have always said, i will work with anybody to implement and improve this law effectively you got good ideas, bring them to me. let's go. but we're not repealing it as long as i'm president. i want to make that clear. >> you know, if what the president said is introduce. then that's a marked change since the first time the health care law went through. the republicans had scores of amendments that harry reid killed. never
, and to get people to sign up for insurance. december 23rd is the next big enrollment deadline for obama care, so the white house is taking on a new effort to fight back against the law's extremely loud critics. you can find of feel the change in tone from the white house on this subject already. they don't sound like they're playing defense on the subject anymore. the president gave a short kickoff speak about it this afternoon in washington, d.c., and i think it was telling this was the biggest applause line in the speech. >> i have always said i would work with anybody to implement and improve this law effectively. you have good ideas, bring them to me. let's go. but we're not repealing it as long as i'm president. >> on thursday this week, the venue will be different, the crowd bill probably be a little younger, and the president will be forced off script undoubtedly because president obama on thursday is sitting down for a one-on-one hardball college interview with chris matthews at american university. president obama and chris matthews on thursday. the interview can only be seen here o
you're okay. we put the picture up. a good friend said obama care tn contest. people said obama care, you better cover this. "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ >>> 113th congress is going to go down as the least productive in our american history. >> 55 bills have been signed into law. this is the least productive congress ever. >> the least productive congress in the history of the american penn. >> it's literally a do nothing congress. >> that's not fair. they are doing something. they are getting into the guinness book of world records and that's twice if you count john boehner's fingernails. >> good morning it's thursday, december 5th. the tree lit up last night. that was quite an event. wasn't it? >> kate and jack were watching last night. very exciting. >> good night. >> for a tree that they senselessly slaughtered. >> welcome to the show. we got contributor mike barnacle, also dragged involuntarily from his family. katty kay. and senior political editor for the white house and white house correspondent for "huffington post," sam stein. and katy, quite a bit of news today. >>
has helped wall street while main street has continued to suffer. the obama care bill has helped big pharma and insurance companies. and there hasn't been a lot of focus on closing looploopholes. i think this speech, if it does signal the beginning of a new, sustained focus for him, could be hopefully a turning point because we do need as a country moral leadership like the kind that the president could provide to focus on this problem, and it doesn't have to be a zero-sum game between left and right, democrat and republican. i have written a lot about how republicans have been terrible at even talking about the problem of poverty, but there are some voices out there talking about it. and if the president could kind of launch a national project and provide moral leadership for business, for republicans, for democrats, and bring people together, i think that could be a significant legacy of his presidency. >> yeah, and i'd put it a little differently. there's one study that shows lower income americans have benefitted under this administration than any in the last 30 years, largely be
is the role of a woman. >>> plus, fact-checking obama care attacks from the right. they're wrong again, and we've got them red-handed. >>> and still ahead, the need financial reform is -- the need for financial reform definitely flaring up. some say a 24th century glass/steagall could really help put out the fire. stay with us. we're right back on "the ed show." and to keep our commitments. and we've made a big commitment to america. bp supports nearly 250,000 jobs here. through all of our energy operations, we invest more in the u.s. than any other place in the world. in fact, we've invested over $55 billion here in the last five years - making bp america's largest energy investor. our commitment has never been stronger. and it feels like your lifeate revolves around your symptoms, ask your gastroenterologist about humira adalimumab. humira has been proven to work for adults who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease. in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief, and many achieved remission
those critical comments he made about obama care last month. mr. clinton criticized president obama for his promise if you like your plan you can keep it. on tuesday, he set the record straight on what was or was not behind those remarks. >> is it because you are setting the way for mrs. clinton to run? and seconds, are the problems with obama care limited to the website? >> the answer to the first question is, no. first of all, i said nothing about this. not one word until the president spoke. >> the former president didn't say whether he thought problems with the law were confined to the website. he also didn't give any insight into a possible white house run by wife hillary in 2016. >> changes to frequent flyer programs could be on the way soon. justices heard arguments tuesday from a rap eye who says northwest airlines revoked his platinum elite status. the airline says it did so because he made too many complaints and booked himself on full flights in hopes of getting bumped. lawyers for the rabbi say it was a move to encourage members ahead of the merger with delta airlines. >
with the vice president. one issue that came cross with president obama is since the health care roll out is bungled, there is this issue of trust. a new cnn poll when asked if you trust the president, 46% agreed and 53% disagreed. how much of a drag will president obama be on your prospects to reclaim the house and do you want him front and center on stage with candidates in swing districts? >> i don't think he is going to be a drag at all and honestly, we want the focus to focus on the affordable care act and when it works well and works better, our prospects are enhanced and the president's in that is a very strong one. it helps us. you have got two philosophies here. the democratic philosophy that recognizes that the roll out was a disaster. we have to be focussed on getting it right and most americans in the battle ground districts agree. they would rather get it right than repeal it. you have the republican philosophy that is obsessed with ambushing and sabotaging and repealing it. they are talking about going back to the days where a woman with breast cancer is told by her insuranc
with the obama care website. also spoke about the perception of his management within his own administration. >> when it comes to the management of government, part of the reason people are so skeptical is that when we do things right they don't get a lot of attention. if we do something that is perceived at least initially as a screw up, it will be on the "nightly news" for a week. i remember bob gates, my former secretary of defense, wonderful public servant, had served under seven presidents, when i first came in i asked him so, bob, you got nyad vice for me. he said, mr. president, just understand you got a lot of people working for you. somebody somewhere is screwing something up. that's true. [ laughter ] so i have to consistently push on every cabinet secretary on every single agency how can we do things better and we can do things better. >> john meacham what is your take on his perspective on his own administration. >> i think it's realistic. president kennedy said defeat is an orphan and victory has a thousand fathers. that's true whether it's a government agency or private institu
a much more mature view but a moral view. i thought i made the moral case for obama care, for you folks to consider obama care as a measure of community in america. that's what motivates barack obama. he knows it's tough. >> he lifts it up. >> the last 15 minutes of this interview were extraordinary. i've never seen anything like it where a president kind of unburdened himself to you about why he's in the ball game. and i thought he made a very compelling case for his own decency, whatever the screw ups were managerially, and they were real. >> i felt like we saw two interviews with the president. in the first half of that interview, you saw a man who was incredibly frustrated by what i think he sees as the smallness of the debate in washington where we don't talk about the big things, but we boil it down to petty fight, frustrated incredibly with the republicans and the media, but he was trying to move forward grand issue, somebody who really is in league or in line with the way the pope feels about social justice. this is a guy who fought for social justice. in that second half, i thi
care. for you folks to consider obama care as a measure of community in america. that's what motivates barack obama. he knows it's tough -- >> and he gave it up. >> the last 15 minutes of this extraordinary were extraordinary. i've never seen anything like it, where a president kind of unburdened himself to you about why he's in the ball game. and i thought he made a very compelling case for his own decency, whatever the screwups were managerially, and they were real. >> and chris, can i say, i felt like we saw two interviews with the president. in the first half of that interview, you saw a man who is incredibly frustrated by what i think he sees as the smallness of the debate in washington. where we don't talk about the big things, the big sweeping issues that matter to the country, or we boil it down to petty fights, frustrated incredibly with the republicans and with the media. but in the second half of that interview, i saw the guy that i first met in 2004, when he was essentially an activist, attempting to use politics to move forward grand issues, really big themes. somebody who
he's president. i thought he made the moral case for obama care, for you folks to consider obama care as a measure of community in america. that's what motivates barack obama. he knows it's tough. >> the last 15 minutes of this interview were great. i thought he made a very compelling case for his own decency. whatever the screw ups were manageri managerially. >> in the first half of that interview, you saw a man who was incredibly frustrated by what he sees as the smallness of the debate in washington. or we boil it down to petty fights, frustrated incredibly with the republicans and the media. but in the second half of the interview, i saw the man i met in 2004, where he was an activist using politics to move forward, somebody who really is in league or in line with the way the pope feels about social justice. i think you saw him stripped away from the presidency to that guy. >> why did that happen? is it the bad poll numbers that faced him to be damn it, i'm going to be who i am. >> he is very self-reflective as he is prone to be. i don't know if this is a negative spin on this. ma
term president. to begin with aca, with obama care that's been a disastrous capstone. we have a president whose staff really isn't serving him very well. some of the heavyweights from first administration are all gone including previous. a president who came to office with a lot of management experience, this is a management breakdown. he needs people around him to help him run this beaurocracy, change the way he's leading to be honest and walk in the oval office and say, sir, this isn't working. here is what we have to do. >> susan, in the president's defense, shouldn't he be able to expect the experts at hhs and various agencies working on this had it under control since they were being asked on a daily basis, do you have it under control? >> certainly there are people below the president who bear responsibility for the catastrophic rollout of the affordable care act and website. in the end he's the president. you know, the buck stops with him. it's really his management responsibility to have made sure that was working. one of the frustrating things for supporters of this l
's chris matthews, president obama trying to bounce back a bit from the health care debacle, gave the host of "hardball" and exclusive interview this week. let's take a look. >> what's going to stop and arrest that decline of faith in you doing the right thing, you being honest and anybody who is president, this skepticism that's out there >> look the cynicism and skepticism is b. >> mr. president, your remarks on economic justice to me as a roman catholic was so resonant what the holy father francis has been saying. >> i'm not going to ask you if chris matthews is playing hardball or softball. >> they muzzled the attack dog. what happened? chris is known forgoing after people. but for having solloliquoys. in this case he didn't do that. there was one question about his management style being top down or -- >> top down not enough in the health care. i thought that was a question. >> other than that he let him speak. >> it was chris matthews for seven years ago. chris matthews has been all about just being a rosie o'donnell talk show host. he's not a journalist. he's rosie o'donnell with an
are facing right now in the cost of obama care, the cost of regulation. i think we need stability in the market. we certainly need to help these people. i thought there were some good things like states that have taken the initiative to raise wages, which, of course, is an option that every state would have. cities can do it as well, if the cost of living could make a difference there. also, andrea, i think that brian's idea earlier that you look at having a wage for students to have jobs and learn how to work in the workplace, but then people working to support a family would have maybe a different criteria. i think there are a lot of ways some of these issues could be addressed. congress is facing a lot of issues right now for our country. >> and they are not working very hard. we had four days where both the house and senate are in until the end of the year. ed rendell, i know governors think they have the answer. you were a former governor. congress is unpopular for a reason. there's a reason we know longer have kay bailey hutchison, olympia snowe and others left in frustratio
with president obama. there are those that have said that no matter what, he can do whatever it is miraculous, we are determined to have his demise. and we don't care if the country itself is shut down, government, whatever. i think that's the big difference in the opposition they faced is the commitment to the country over your party's position. >> one lesson, i think, from mandela's example for president obama, for any leader, mandela never ceded the moral high ground. he always kept the moral high ground. and i believe that was in part his nature, and i believe that was in part a calculation that in the end, morality would work out. in the end the arc of history would bend toward moral justice. and i think that's a lesson. >> i don't think it's just the republicans that create the difference there. mandela in his one term, he was okay at managing the economy, okay at managing crime, not so great managing corruption. as eugene says, what he really stepped forward was his moral vision. he was a brilliant communicator. we expected that of obama. obama, in fact, has not been as president as brilli
left intact, and instead of universal health care, they got obamacare. mr. obama's not running for office, a whole new feisty brand of populism is sweeping the party. firebrands like warren along with new york city's new mayor, bill de blasio, are some of the darlings. centrists from the think tank third way warned against moving to the extreme left in a scathing "wall street journal" op-ed that said, quote: >> r eporter: former president bill clinton deliberately picked fights with far-left liberals to cast himself and the party as more mainstream. both parties face this. listen to a warning for his own party, democrats, from indiana u.s. senator even bye. >> i do think you're going to see a more activist, liberal wig of the democratic party, and you may see them playing the same role in democratic primary contests that the tea party has played on the republican side where you have anti-establishment, more ideologically pure, for lack of a better word, candidates running which then lead to less electable nominees. >> reporter: so centrists are warning the liberal progressives
, health care? >> democrats wonder in poll, which party do you want to see in democrats? obama versus mccain, obama, definitely. they went in, used their power to implement and missed a backlash for doing something that in the polls in 2008 would have been very popular. >> i wonder if some democrats say, you know, health care was supposed to be popular. too. >> here's my favorite political point of all time, which is that both parties fear their flanks but in different ways. republicans fear the republicans have feared the far right in the sense of oh, no, we better appease them. >> they lose primaries. >> democrats fear the left of their party, oh, we don't want to be associated which them. you see this sort of play out in election after election. we don't want to seem like we are which those people when, in fact, that is who elects presidents. >> that is the democratic base and increaseingly, every poll shows they are representing more and more of this populist unmet node early. >> that is right. when democrats start losing primaries, everyone can criticize the president. that stinks.
to make certain they have better health care outcomes and they have real economic opportunity and that education is something that is available to all that we walk towards more pros spert pore young people in the country. when president obama was here a few short months ago, he talked about the ways it has the potential to be an after our strengths are linked to one another. i think that's the best way to memorialize all that he meant to us. >> we know december 15th is when will be the final good-bye, if that's appropriate to say, we'll see each other again, but the final good-bye here. i can't imagine there won't be a television set or radio on where people will gather and watch this moment that will be unmatched as far as the diversity and the range of people who sincerely say that this man changed their life, set the compass of their direction in life. >> that's so true, tamron. during the anti-apartheid moment, we used to chant all the time, the whole world is watching, here again he has made certain that the world world is watching, everyone is pausing and reflecting on w
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